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  • January 19, 2017 at 5:20 PM #3130
    Conair
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    As a bit of background, I’ve been using some sort of supplement for over 10 years. For a long time it was just protein powder for post-workout, then about 5-6 years ago I started taking pre-workout (started with C4, tried ACG3, Pump Fuel, and a couple others, but have been back to C4 for the last couple years). Right now, for a weight training session, I’ll take pre-workout (Cellucor C4) before, have BCAA during (Muscle Pharm BCAA3:1:2), and a protein shake afterwards (Muscle Pharm Combat Protein Powder). All of this is in addition to an already healthy diet, do almost all my own cooking, heavy on vegetables and chicken and quinoa, and I avoid sugar/processed foods as much as I can (except when I just need to indulge that sweet tooth of course).

    Just wondering about MP’s view of supplements, and how/when/if to include them in training. Are there things you try to avoid or add for certain types training?

    January 19, 2017 at 10:42 PM #3132
    Morgan
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    Creatine and protein mostly. Recently added beta alanine after some supplement research which supposedly has a somewhat similar effect to creatine I think? I’ve always stayed away from preworkouts personally because I don’t feel like I need them and the stuff I’ve heard seemed a little sketchy. Maybe coffee if I’m working out early enough instead of after work. Oh, also Omega 3.

    BTW I get all of it from https://myprotein.com which is cheap and very highly rated by Labdoor.

    January 23, 2017 at 7:27 AM #3137
    Tim
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    SO many thoughts on supps. Not sure where to start. In general I think we want to get as close to natural as possible. This doesn’t mean we take no supps, it means the supps we take a from natural sources… I.E. Laird Insta Fuel vs Pre-Workout powder. With things like Creatine / Beta this isn’t always possible.

    1. Pre-workouts. My fav pre-workout is bulletproof coffee, espresso or Laird InstaFuel. I was always weary of pre-workouts because they throw in so many incredients. Most have beta-alanine, creatine, caffeine, taurine and many others. I’m not sure this makes sense. Why? Well all of these work, yes. If you are going to take any of these take them properly. It seems like a waste of $ and a waste of energy to metabolize all these things. If you are going to take creatine and beta don’t just take them 3 x a week before big workouts. Take them how they are meant to be taken.

    Stimulants like Taurine and Caffeine are great pre-workout but I’d rather have a natural form from expresso than from a processed powder.

    2. As Morgan mentioned, Beta and Creatine are legit. Its just a matter of using them at the proper time and only after you have a high training age.

    3. I like ZMA’s a lot for improved sleep and recover. Technically you should get a blood panel before knowing if you are deficient in any of these but there is a good chance they will help you especially during a big training cycle.

    I like Krill Oil and the addition of Omegas 3s and 6s. Especially during heavy lifting cycles.

    I also have been playing with the oxidative effects of red beet juices/powder and some of the ketogenic and fat products. Recently I was able to participate in a very intense Portuguese National Team training weekend in ketosis using on Laird Superfood Top Fuel, Insta Fuel (probably my 2 favorite products ever) and Ketogenix Endogenous Ketones. Becoming fat adapted is challenging but makes sense. The Lakers athletes have had lots of success playing in Ketosis. Takes lots of will power but worth considering.

    https://www.onnit.com
    https://lairdsuperfood.com

    Oh, collegen protein is starting to make more sense than Whey. Verdict is still out though…

    https://www.bulletproof.com/collagen-protein-net-wt-16-oz

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